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#8659   2006-10-14 07:04 GMT      
As a scientist by nature, I consider art to be a creative outlet for me. I was wondering about where artistic talent comes from:

- are you born with it (is it hereditary) ?
- is it for those with a creative nature?
- can you learn to be artistic (from having very little talent)
- are sciences and arts mutually exclusive?

What do you think ?

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#8673   2006-10-14 08:52 GMT      
I think in many ways "talent" does seem to run in families but not necessarily in the way that you would expect.

I was thinking of the artist Lucian Freud, who has a famous brother - Clement Freud and a famous grandfather Sigmund Freud. The next generation of Freuds - including Emma and Matthew seem to be doing pretty well for themselves too!

I suppose all of the family have "creative thinking" in one shape or another.

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#8675   2006-10-14 08:58 GMT      
Technique can be taught, so you can learn how to draw straight, understand perspective, texture, light and all of the actual physical parts of art. However, a great artist has something more that puts them on another level from the technicians.

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#8827   2006-11-05 23:27 GMT      
THere is a 75% chance that is a hererity thing. In my family no one practices it. THe only person who does is my older brother and I. I noticed it because I actually talked to everyone. Like past generations and no practice certainly because they never had the materials or time, to practice art in any way. Who knows. Oh, have you seen the episode in Ripleys believe it or not, where this guy had no artistic skills and he had an airplane accident and was hit on his right side of his head and all of a sudden he had big time skills he did sculputures, drawings and stuff. That happend to me I was in a car accident and was hit somehow on my right side of my head, it was so severe I almost lost eyesight. That's probably were my art skills were triggered, and I was only six when that happend. SO this another way in which artistic talent comes from.

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#8844   2006-11-10 11:57 GMT      
In other words not entirely born with it, I think?
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#8849   2006-11-11 07:19 GMT      
lol that's awesome
brb, gonna bang a hammer on the right side o my head and hope i get some art skills :happy5:

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#8858   2006-11-13 10:36 GMT      
I can draw on paper abstract and make sketches, portraits with a model and i never went to an ArtSchool and never took any classes about techniques or else. I just make them. It's strange 'cause i never thought about this. I always "run" on the net to look for art and get inspired to create stuff in Photoshop. Maybe i should drop this for a while and get into draw by hand..i don't know.
I have one man in my family (an uncle) who can paint, make sculpture and poetry. He have 3 books until now and 5 or 6 paint gallery in the city. He is very talented but a very strange man LOL - he really is!

I think people are born with artistic talent. Many of them try to learn more but succeed only the ones that have born-skills and discover this. So i think everyone should try to see if there is the magic inside.

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#8859   2006-11-13 10:39 GMT      
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I think in many ways "talent" does seem to run in families but not necessarily in the way that you would expect.

I was thinking of the artist Lucian Freud, who has a famous brother - Clement Freud and a famous grandfather Sigmund Freud. The next generation of Freuds - including Emma and Matthew seem to be doing pretty well for themselves too!

I suppose all of the family have "creative thinking" in one shape or another.




no one in my family is into creative arts [m/f+s/brother] nor further afield[ aunts +uncles]
i taught myself how to draw at the late age of 22..from a book[ perspectives.. etc] in prison [boredom= oppertunity]
so i think its a learned thing ,

as for the freud family ,theres an artist and thinker the first freud to become ''somebody'' did he not pave the way for the others to be ''famous''by association ? lucien [thinker ] clement freud , a writer? tv persona?

having a monied background ,surely gives any family oppertuneties, to learn many things like writing and TV [most people have to do real work ] therefore dont have the time for such persuits so miss out on the potential to be the best / very good at something. if we all had the means and oppertunity would the other freuds stand out as they do ,who knows

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#8862   2006-11-14 10:40 GMT      
Shanks Le Roux -
"lol that's awesome
brb, gonna bang a hammer on the right side o my head and hope i get some art skills"
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DOn't try to do something like this. This happend to be but by accident, well it was a car accident and don't under any circumstances do that. It would be funny, you would look like a ,doufous-spelling correction...lol, if I were there when you do something like this, then it be funny.lol...

Well this is actually a funny story, I tell my sister to bang her kids heads well on the right side and she just wouldn't do it she isn't as fun as me I would do it to my kids but I... Well Im just typically mean to any kids...lol.. Oh welll...... :hehe:
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#8867   2006-11-14 18:04 GMT      
++ XyzaBELLA + at the end of your comment you should add ˝Don't try this at home!!!˝ hehehe ou i don't know about my talent i kinda have a freaky a bit big big imagination...
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#8870   2006-11-15 12:42 GMT      
I think it really depends on the person. Some people are born with it, others inherit it, while others start with nothing and work their butts off.

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#8871   2006-11-15 17:02 GMT      
Yeah forgot thanks, M-tic uh stillsky your right.. Yeah. :bounce:
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#9138   2007-02-11 13:56 GMT      
I do think that being artistically inclined is something you are born with, however even if you are not born with it you still can learn it. I was not born with the ability to create art in photoshop but i learnt, its all a matter of how you learn it and take it in stride.

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#9215   2007-02-22 13:15 GMT      
I agree with the genetic/ born to be/ hereditary point of view on this. Like many things in life there are people who never had much training in an area but exceeded everyone who had recieved the training. Like football players for example born into families with no footballing ties but they go on to become the best players in the world.

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#9221   2007-02-23 03:16 GMT      
I'd say that it's a little more than heredity. Art is the distillation of talent. Meaning that it drips through bit by bit over generation, a little from your mom, a little your dad, you take a little bit from yourself and your wife and pass on the whole lot to your son. And one fine day, you have the genius born. That's art. Just my 2 cents, so if you feel I'm wrong, feel free to trash it.

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#9225   2007-02-24 12:24 GMT      
Hereditary... is it the gene pool, or the influence of your surroundings? We could debate that all day, but let's not confuse talent with success! There is a lot of crap getting top dollar, and a lot of "important" critics who have not an ounce of talent. Real talent is often overlooked!
As for the physiological, if the right/left brain phenom is true, I feel safe saying that a brain trauma certainly can cause one to be more creative.(Remember, don't try this at home...xyzaBELLA is an "expert") But remember this... I am a lifelong musician with a 17 year old son who, although being exposed to every nuance of the creative and business side of the industry, never took any interest, never as much as touched the keyboard! About 3 years ago, (and no blows to the head) he picked up a guitar and is now the best lead player I have ever worked with! Why the delay?? (See him at www.siennablu.com)
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#9232   2007-02-25 14:12 GMT      
Technic helps to do 'good' & 'academic' work.
Talent is something that no books or schools can teach.

You born with it. The problem is to be aware of it and not too late ;)

Then, you can decide to develop or not your creativity or talent.

I have many talented friends. Most of them are not aware of it...
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#9238   2007-02-27 16:43 GMT      
I believe the technical skill is something you learn, even though there are people who learn a LOT faster than others... like that kid Akiane you probably heard of.

but the inspiration, the urge to create and the ability to think of new concepts is intrinsic, at least from what I saw. many people can just draw portraits and figures of pretty women/horses/whatever but there's no story behind it. while it might be beautiful, it's not really what I consider amazing art. I guess some people just lack imagination and that's a lot more difficult to train than eyes and hand.

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#9241   2007-03-02 02:29 GMT      
I think that an artist has the ability to see things in many different ways.
Artist is a broad term so creativity can take on many forms, depending on the individual.
Technique can be taught but the ability and the natural desire to express oneself through art,
and see things dementional(seeing gray areas as opposed to black and white)this definitely is a trait that is inherited.
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